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Redefining Dementia
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Redefining Dementia
Living With Dementia: A Powerful Journey of Hope, Inspiration, and Resilience
Join us in warmly welcoming our cherished friend, Jim Mann, who bravely shares his poignant journey through living with dementia. His story is not only deeply personal but also an inspiration, as he continues to live his life fully and purposefully, despite his diagnosis. Through his firsthand experience as a caregiver, and later as someone living with the condition, Jim sheds light on the importance of understanding and encouragement for those who are in similar situations.
Get ready to be inspired as Jim walks us through his life-changing journey, providing valuable insights on how to adapt to life with dementia. He weaves a compelling narrative about the power of purpose, the significance of staying connected, and how maintaining a sense of independence can make a significant difference. Jim’s story is a testament to the human spirit, highlighting the importance of understanding unique experiences with dementia and the power of choosing to live a full life, regardless of a dementia diagnosis.
Rounding off our conversation, we delve into Jim’s advocacy work, which focuses on shifting the narrative around dementia. He emphasizes on acknowledging the capabilities of individuals, rather than just their limitations. Through his work, Jim strives to redefine the stigma around dementia, focusing on a future of hope and opportunities. His story serves as a reminder that life doesn’t stop after diagnosis; instead, it’s an invitation to adapt, focus on possibilities, and continue to live a fulfilling and meaningful life. So, join us in this enlightening and impactful conversation, there's much to learn and much to be inspired by.
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Welcome to Redefining Dementia. I'm Ashley King and I'm Daphne Noonan. Thank you for joining us. We are your co-hosts as well as the co-founders of Person Centered Universe, where we help you provide person-centered dementia care at home, at work or in your community. Through the Redefining Dementia podcast, we are striving toward a better world for those affected by dementia by sharing resources and insights from experts around the world.
Speaker 2:When consuming resources or media about dementia, the focus is often on the challenges, stigma and fear that may accompany a diagnosis of dementia. This podcast seeks to shift that narrative to focus on and celebrate living well with dementia and what that means for caregivers. Through the sharing of stories, resources and helpful life experiences. We hope to provide you with helpful and meaningful takeaways for your journey ahead.
Speaker 1:A special note before we begin. This information shared in this podcast is for educational purposes only. If you or someone you know is experiencing symptoms of dementia, we encourage you to seek medical advice from a qualified healthcare professional.
Speaker 2:On this episode of Redefining Dementia. We are honored to welcome our dear friend, jim Mann. Following a 25-year career at Canadian Airlines CPAR, jim elected early retirement and established his management consulting company, capital Business Strategies Limited, until 2008. Since being diagnosed with young onset Alzheimer's disease in 2007, at just 58 years old, jim has volunteered his time advocating to educate, focusing on living positively with dementia, reducing stigma and shattering stereotypes. Jim has been a board member of both the Alzheimer's Society of Canada and the Alzheimer's Society in his own province of British Columbia and remains active with both societies. He has contributed to numerous publications and is a board member for many organizations. As an active volunteer, he was appointed a member of the Federal Minister of Health's first advisory board on dementia, with a focus on a national dementia strategy in 2018. In 2020, jim was awarded an honorary Doctor of Laws degree from the University of British Columbia for his advocacy efforts for the rights of people with lived experience of dementia.
Speaker 2:During this episode, jim shares about his very personal experiences with dementia, both as a caregiver for his mother and as someone who is currently living with dementia himself. Jim explains why life doesn't have to stop after receiving a diagnosis of dementia and how important it is to continue growing, living and taking advantage of opportunities that still arise along the dementia journey. Jim shares practical tips and adaptations that he has adopted that help him live life to the fullest, and explains how slight modifications can have a big impact on continuing to live as independently as possible. He also provides incredible advice for supporters and caregivers of people living with dementia and shares his thoughts on why understanding and just the right amount of encouragement goes a long way. This is a very impactful and meaningful conversation and we hope that you enjoy it as much as we did.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to thank you, Jim, for joining us today. I know I don't have as much history as you and Daphne, but we're really humbled that you're willing to join us on the podcast today. So thank you.
Speaker 3:Well. I appreciate the opportunity and the invitation. It's lovely to catch up with Daphne, but also to talk about living with a diagnosis of dementia and trying to live well.
Speaker 1:And thank you so much for being an advocate and sharing. So why don't we start off by having you tell us a little bit about your journey so far of living with dementia?
Speaker 3:How long did you say this podcast?
Speaker 2:It's a. We'll try to keep it under an hour, but it's been a fascinating journey, to be honest.
Speaker 3:I was, my mother had dementia and my father had passed away a number of years before, and so I just want to tell us my wife and I sort of followed her along pre-diagnosis and then she went well. She was never formally diagnosed. I know full well from my notes of some of what was going on in her world. They're actually going on in my world. So we followed her along from her condo to independent living and then to long term care and that was my first insight into it dementia. But it was also my first insight into really understanding the stigma and the issues around the medical system, not wanting to bother with telling my mother that she had dementia or even test her, and but also to see what happened to her in some instances in independent living, where, you know, they always sat at the same table. One day, just at the end of their lunch, I arrived and went to the table and there were four people at the table and one of them was not my mother. So I, where's my mother? First thinking the worst, and and oh, they pointed to the corner table. She's over there. So you know, you realize that even her own, her own peers, you know, as far as age and so on, had no patience with her and and. So that was the start of my journey, and and I was actually diagnosed in February of 2007. And she died in December of 2007.
Speaker 3:So we actually sort of live together in our own journey and since then I, I, after my diagnosis, I, you know, you sort of come to grips with it and and and after I don't know how a few months or a number of months, I, I thought what's going to? What am I going to do now? And so I was a communicator and a lobbyist advocate in my for my employer before, and so I thought let's combine that with my mother's experience and my own experience and and promote the idea of trying to get over the stigma of dementia, trying to educate people in general, whether you want to do it, the public at large, whether you want to do it to nurses or doctors or whatever, or to other people with dementia and caregivers, and so that's sort of what I've done. My first push that was in November of 2007 with the Alzheimer's Society of BC, and so I've continued doing things since then and then I have been fortunate to be a part of many things, but I'm sure we'll come to that and I'll let you talk now.
Speaker 2:I was just thinking as you were talking, jim, how, how lucky we are to be able to speak with you uniquely you, because you bring such a unique perspective, because you you can actively share the experience of living with dementia and also as a care partner for someone with dementia a very, very rare opportunity I think that you get in such amazing, rich insight into those experiences from the same person. So I thank you so much for sharing that and I would love, I would love to ask the question, and you know you and I do go way back, so I know that, I know that there are so many practical things that you've put in place and we'll talk about that probably a bit later but maybe can you maybe share a little bit for our listeners of some unexpected challenges and some maybe unexpected gifts that you would have encountered along the journey.
Speaker 3:Well, I think the challenges are probably little things that happened in life that you think you know, I guess you often come and you often go back to. I used to be able to do that and some of those are are more of a challenge than others and some are more, I don't know, perhaps a physical challenge more than than a mental challenge, but there are some that that you, that it takes a while to, I don't know, shall I say, move beyond and gradually get relaxed about. To be honest, I can't think of one in particular, one instance in particular, but but, but I know I have had a few moments over the years where it's I don't know. I, you know, didn't quite understand this before. As far as dementia and and, and I guess in some ways, as I'm talking, you get diagnosed and yourself confidence takes a hit. I didn't know that before and along with that is is your confidence going out.
Speaker 3:We had a chocolate Labrador right from puppy and and after my diagnosis it was fascinating to see how she adapted and I would go to the corner and stop looking, listen and go on, and, and sometimes I would get disoriented on our walk and and I see her looking up at me and it would be okay, I'm, it's, I'll take over now, you know, you know, either take me home or whatever, and and but I didn't know that that sort of would happen. I didn't necessarily understand that whole disorientation when I'm out type thing, and so that. So we were, and Brea and I, my dog, had a good life, and then she, she died and and and I found that I could not go for a walk. Just oh, I'm going to go out for a walk. And I wasn't because she wasn't there, it was more. I think what had happened once or twice is that in going to a corner and stopping looking and listen, I would look to the left and maybe see a car over there, look to the right, see nothing, and then I'd forget the car was there. And that happened a couple of times. So consequently, I, I just could not do it.
Speaker 3:So now to get my walk, we were in a good location that I can walk to a store that is great coffee, and so, even if there's nothing to to get at the grocery store, I will say I'll just go up and get a latte. And so I write on, I get a piece of paper and I write the name of the store. And then I write down latte and I put it in my hand. And one day, daphne. I was on my way there Three times. I had no idea why. Where, where was I, why, where was I going? And so I oh, I have a piece of paper in my hand, so I'd look at it. Oh, I'm going to Fresh Street. So that's why I that's, that's how I get out.
Speaker 2:But I didn't know that Well, I thank you and I I'm going to take a little sidebar from that question because I thought of so many examples as you.
Speaker 2:I think it's absolutely, you know, inspiring that you always do such a good job of your practical, like your practical, in how you solve the challenges, as you do and, if you don't mind, I can share one, one memory that I have of you and I when we were at a busy weekend at a board meeting in in Toronto years ago, we were in a restaurant and I remember I had a pink blazer.
Speaker 2:Like I was wearing a pink blazer and we were with a large group and I remember you, you came up to me just quietly and and said I'd like to, I'd like to walk, you know, near, like, near you, or can you just make sure that when we're walking that you stick close, because you were using my blazer as the queue, like I was with the pink blazer, and I always have remembered that in terms of just being in how you, you're practical in how you are doing it and it's very successful, like things that you, you know you put in place and yeah, it's and also, I'm sure, humbling to do that, but also like for you, but what a difference it makes in your success, like as you're going through the experience.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then, sorry, but it's sort of taking little bits of what's been happening to me and and putting it all together to make it work. And as I always remember and this is a number of years ago when I did have weren't very far from home and a woman pulls over to the side in her car and gets out and says, where you know, where is this particular address or street? No-transcript, I don't know. So I'm, I'm damn, so of course, I'm not wanting to tell her. So I see one of the street signs, so it's okay, I'm, this is this side street, but what's what's street of my own? So I did this, these mental gymnastics, it felt like ours, and I did get her on her way. And another time where a person wanted to know where something was, and it was easy, but yet I was standing there, and he finally said it's okay, I'll find it on my own. So you know all these little chunks or nuggets, if you will come together, and I think, okay, how am I going to deal with this?
Speaker 2:So yeah, you adapt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you. It's just so incredible how you've maintained independence by adapting just these small changes to how you would typically go for your walk. It's, I'm sure, for any care partners listening. Those are such tangible ways that people can you, tangible things that people can use to continue to, to adapt and and, like I said, live independently.
Speaker 3:Amazing. Thank you for sharing, because some people will sort of throw caution to the wind and and go out and get lost and they don't care. And and I was doing over two guys and the guy the one fellow was still driving and you know he they were laughing about parking somewhere, you know, at a beach, and then going for a long walk and then realizing they had no idea where they were and where their car was, and and and I remember thinking on my way home because we had been in a society thing and thinking I could not do that. Yeah, I just don't have it in me. But yet others will say I feel uncomfortable going for a walk, so therefore I will not go for a walk, and that wasn't going to work for me either.
Speaker 2:Yeah so then it's, it's like yeah, and just, I think you're, you're the for me. Anyway, you are the epitome of like you don't panic, like it's like okay, it's just practical, like how am I going to solve this, you know, and and that's, that's adapting, right, yeah?
Speaker 1:And identifying. I just want to highlight to the piece where you shared how different people do different things even you know when they are living with dementia and how unique each experience is, so not to apply the same approach to everyone. Thank you for sharing that. That's a really good piece of information.
Speaker 3:It is too easy to well here, do this. Yeah, you know, Jim said do this. Yeah, yeah, Well, fine, it worked for Jim. Yeah, yeah, I won't do that. You know like it's. You know, really it's the adage to each his own, and and it really is, but it's taking the time to figure out what works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. What works for you? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly, we're too excited. Daphne and. I are jumping over each other, so why don't I get on to the next question? So what would be one piece of advice that you would like to pass along to someone who is just beginning their journey with dementia?
Speaker 3:Oh, get out and live Now, don't throw caution to the wind.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you know, in some ways it's taking that living well with dementia and and broadening it to I, go out for a walk where you feel safe.
Speaker 3:Go out for a walk where, in a neighborhood, where it works for you or whatever. And and that to me is is the biggest message is that the diagnosis is, you know, going to be for many people like a punch in the stomach and so, if you like many people, the first inclination is to go and Google. You know, living with dementia or whatever, and you know that may work for some. But, as it has been said to me many times, when these individuals have gone to Google, they end up seeing the end of life stories. They end up seeing, you know, the stereotypical model of a person with dementia and you know, for 99.5% of the people who are in fact Googling, that they are not there. They may well have, you know, within a month or two or whatever, been diagnosed. So fine, realize that from diagnosis to wherever is going to be years in the making and it isn't that, again, unconscious bias is you go from diagnosis to long-term care, bang, and that isn't the case, so my message is always to understand that isn't the case.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I can imagine if a person would be able to come to a true understanding and belief of that. That it would bring new opportunities for hope and, you know, optimism as opposed to sort of a decline or isolation or helplessness.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shrug the shoulder and say, oh well, I guess that's it. No, you know, I remember my doctor, years and years and years ago, saying that everybody needs a purpose, everybody needs a reason to get out of bed in the morning. And you know, I saw people in my support group who did not do that, who did not have that. I remember having a conversation with a couple of them and you know they were both not having a good morning and be mourning the fact they weren't able to drive. And so I said well, you know, you can take a bus. And so one guy said well, I went out to the bus stop. The bus never came. So I went home and I take the bus and know that a bus stop can feel like 60. So I said well, you know, there's an easy solution for that. You go on the computer and you know the site the translink site will tell you when the bus would be by. Both of them said we don't use the computer. So I thought okay, now you don't drive, you don't take the bus, you don't use the computer, and that's not good. What is keeping you going? Are you going out for a walk? You know, and that to me is the biggest message.
Speaker 3:I the city of Vancouver and its efforts to become more dementia friendly. A number of years ago did a video called Jim's story on YouTube and a number of people said that they somehow found it. And it made such a difference because it showed there I was eating ice cream in the market and I was on a bus or standing in line for a bus and buying a newspaper. And it also showed that I was not able and to this day I don't use coins I they mean nothing to me so it showed me buying a newspaper and putting all this change on the newspaper and it resonated. It has resonated with many people and made them realize that, wow, you know there may be. You know there is a journey between diagnosis and long-term care that we didn't know about.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, so that narrative of decline is so prevalent and the, like you say, unconscious bias that that creates for, not only for people who provide care, but also individuals who are going through it, who have had the diagnosis as well? Right?
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:Wow. So I'm going to I guess I'll switch gears for a minute and this is I fear we may need, like probably another, knowing you all, we may need a whole another episode on this question, but so what would be the so? Shifting now to the people who support individuals, say, if there's people who are living at home with dementia, so if they have formal caregivers or informal, you know, helpers, that what would be the number one thing that you would like to share with you know care partners or healthcare professionals about living with dementia, about the experience?
Speaker 3:It is a personal challenge, it can eat away at you. You know when, as I think I said much earlier, I used to be able to do this and when that happens a number of times in a short period of time, that can, I can have an impact on an individual. And so I think it's it's important for people to to recognize that the ebb and flow of the individual and you will, I mean, everybody has a good day, everybody has a bad day, and there's no, there is no getting around it. That said, sometimes if you have, you know, a few days where there's sort of little, again little nuggets of this happened and this happened and God, I can't do this anymore, and so on, it's just to understand where that person may may be, they may be a bit down, but that doesn't mean they can't, they can't move forward. And so a little bit of encouragement, but not overdone. Don't keep saying that's a good job, good for you.
Speaker 3:And I guess the other thing would be just try to understand, through reading a brochure, maybe from the Alzheimer's Society or something about dementia, about living with dementia, so that you get a grasp of where your spouse or partner, what is going through their minds, what they are, how they're coping and help them cope. So if you know, on a beautiful day, why don't you go for a walk? Well, no, I don't feel like going for a walk. Is there anything I can do to help make going for a walk easier? What did it help to write down sort of a destination, have that destination in mind and keep it there so that you know if you need a reminder. There you've got it. That's where I'm going. I think it's. You know, don't be the cheerleader but be the supporter is a lot of it.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you just gave me so much more of a deeper insight. I mean, I think you know that Ashley and I have both spent our careers advocating for person-centered approaches and, you know, looking at practical ways to help staff in homes or in community settings provide. You know approaches, but you know you said something there a moment ago that just made me realize we should always adapt a person. You know person-centered approach and positive. You know, try to look at ways of finding what will work, but it's, you know, sometimes it's not about that, like we can do everything right and you could just be having a bad day because you're carrying something that the rest of us are not carrying and navigating through, and so it's like also about allowing for grace for, you know, for what I heard you say, like that was really that's amazing insight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's truly incredible and to your point, daphne, you know, allowing for grace and also recognizing that just because you can adapt your approach or adapt a way of living doesn't mean that it's like grounds for celebration all the time. I think that's what really resonated for me. You don't always have to be. Oh, you know, it's like the with ageism you're still driving. It's like that same kind of approach of you don't need to be celebrated for going through life, because that you're going through life adapting the way that you know how. And yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 3:And just supporting. But also we talked about I think you talked about how you know I'm creative in some ways, and so likewise for the caregiver in how can I make this work for you, can I? Do you want me to help you make it work for you? Or, you know, do you just want to sit in the backyard and enjoy it and enjoy the day and not go for a walk? Fine, Because there are some days that probably you as a caregiver would like to just sit in the backyard and not go for a walk. You know, like the individual that is diagnosed with dementia doesn't really change a lot, right In subtle ways, gradually over the years they do.
Speaker 2:But but at the core, yeah, and there are. You know, obviously there are things that are different in terms of symptoms, but you're not that different from me either. If I don't like, I think that's what you're trying to say is like potentially, like it's just, I'm just living and everybody wants to go for a walk every day.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's because your diagnosis dementia one day doesn't mean that you are radically changed than that.
Speaker 3:That's exactly it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for this. Oh my gosh, All of it. I know I'm like, just so you know, you've, you've. I've resisted the urge to cry like five times I can make it through.
Speaker 1:So I'll move on to the next question. So how would you like to redefine dementia through your advocacy work, as the tireless advocate that you are?
Speaker 3:Well, I think, to highlight the possibilities, highlight the opportunities that still arise to take advantage of, still arise to, I don't know, still live as an individual, any presentations I've had, I guess I just try to emphasize that while dementia is not curable, you know, doesn't mean anything in some ways, just because you get diagnosed doesn't stop you from doing things. And whether you like a fellow one fellow in my support group volunteered at a food bank. He used to be in sales and man, he was a salesperson right up to the day he died. He greeted those people at the food bank, shook their hands and welcomed them.
Speaker 3:My group met for breakfast and there was always a group of retired gentlemen that would meet, nothing to do with our group. They would be at this table and we were away over here, but he would pass their table and after a little while he went and introduced himself to everybody and he remembered their names and would greet them. And one day I actually had to get up from the table and go over and suggest come on, we're ordering now. So that to me is sort of an illustration of what I'm saying is that the idea just needs a redefinition to show a certain level of positivity, because life does not end the day you're diagnosed, and that has been really my message right from the first day I was diagnosed. But then, my first day, I had a head start because of my mother and so I had other understanding. But no, I think it's just you know you're going to fall down and get back up and keep on going, keep on living Wow.
Speaker 3:And of course I did one day fall down Right on a main street downtown Vancouver. Oh wow, I was so disappointed I didn't make the news. But you know, I guess in some ways it's a bit of an illustration in that I did I don't know maybe a year later, attend a meeting, an interdepartmental meeting at the city of Vancouver, as they were pursuing this more dimension friendly direction, and it was in the fall. And so the city engineer had been interviewed a number of times on TV about preparedness for bad weather and so on. So I knew who he was, and he was sitting there in this room amongst all these other employees as they were coming in, and he looked.
Speaker 3:His body language said why am I even here? Right, you know, this is dementia. I'm city engineering. Where is there a connection? And then I talked, and included in that talk was me falling down across from CTV, and all of a sudden his whole body language changed to oh okay, now I know why I'm here, but because we were talking about part of the whole thing is making it walkable, so removing all these changes in sidewalks and so on. But so it's. You know, everybody has a role to play along the way and in showing maybe this needs to be done, or maybe I can do this, and so on.
Speaker 2:So we've done some little bit of work in providing education around like dementia inclusion, like inclusion for communities, and what we tend to say is dementia inclusive environments are inclusive for everyone. It's the things that are needed and necessary and helpful are also helpful for a lot of other people too, right.
Speaker 3:That's right, Daphne, but a part of being dementia inclusive is understanding disorientation, so that a person walking in downtown, for example, might well come out of the building and stand at the entrance and go I don't know where I am, which is what I did, and so it's so. At one point I did something with the city, with the police, in a video for outdoor workers. If you see somebody who may be disoriented, you know things to do like don't go up behind them and tap them on the shoulder and that type of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ask them, you know, approach them and ask them. If they yeah, yeah, Well, I mean, the amount of work that you've accomplished in these last few years is just so, so amazing to me. I'm going to ask one final question and then, if there's anything that you might like to talk with us about that we missed you, feel free. So when you think about you know all the water under the bridge in the last few years since you've been living with dementia, from your diagnosis and all the work you've done when you think about the future, what is your hope for the future for people who are living with dementia? It's a big question.
Speaker 3:I think I like to think that more recognition of capabilities by others, so that, whether they be researchers or a medical profession or whatever, to realize that they have a voice and they have a reason to have that voice and don't make assumptions. If we can overcome those, I think that will make such a difference to years ahead. If we can get beyond that immediate assumption of incapability. And that is a big, big challenge to overcome, because you well you know I've talked about a fellow who was a long time member of a golf club, a long time member, so all members would go to him about rules that he was an encyclopedia, if you will, and men's night he would organize men's night, do everything. The day after members learned that he had Alzheimer's, no one ever went to him about a rule and they said immediately don't worry about men's night, we'll look after that. As if in 12 hours he had lost it totally.
Speaker 3:And that is what makes me do what I do. That is what I'm trying to overcome so that, looking into the future, people won't have that, because that just encourages the stigma, that just confirms the unconscious bias and that just makes people with dementia stop going out. It makes them stop having a purpose. It makes them feel like, well, I might as well stay home, because they get questioned. You know, if you're able to walk and talk at the same time, you can't have dementia. Or, as one doctor said, well, they look normal. Yeah, I look normal, just like I did the day before I was diagnosed.
Speaker 2:So yeah, wow, jim, I don't think thank you would even come close to expressing how we feel about the fact that you were able to spend some time with us today. I just think you're simply amazing. Well, thank you.
Speaker 1:And if I'm sure that just this short hour has you've changed the frame of thinking I know for Daphne and I just been in sharing that time with you. So thank you so much.
Speaker 3:I appreciate the opportunity. It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow, wow. If you haven't had the opportunity to hear Jim Mann speak in the past about his personal experience, first with his mother and then himself being diagnosed with dementia, you can now see just how incredible he is, what an advocate he is and how he takes such a calm and gentle approach to help us see and view living with dementia differently. We're so honored to have him join the podcast. He is just an all around incredible person, filled with such vibrancy and just a real sense of positivity, even knowing and understanding things that he's gone through along his journey of living with dementia. So I hope that you enjoyed this episode.
Speaker 1:I hope that Jim's story resonated with you and, even more importantly, I hope that hearing his firsthand accounts and his firsthand perspective of simple situations that we all find ourselves in or that we can imagine those who are living with dementia that we care for are experiencing or living through, I hope that it's helped you to see it from the person who's living with dementia, from standing in the shoes of the person who's living with dementia, and I hope that you enjoyed this episode. Thank you for listening, as always, and we look forward to hopefully having Jim join us again. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Redefining Dementia podcast. We hope that you have found this information helpful and inspiring. No matter where you find yourself in the dementia journey, whether you are a person living with dementia, a healthcare professional, family and friend care provider, or an ally we aspire to shift the narrative and redefine what dementia means to you.
Speaker 2:This podcast was made possible by the New Horizons for Seniors program. Our music is written and produced by Scott Holmes, the podcast was produced by Janna Jones, and we'd like to offer a very special thanks to our affiliates at Lifelong Inspiration and, of course, to our amazingly talented and knowledgeable guests who gave of their time to share their expertise with us.
